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I'm calling for Michael Bordeaux. Oh, hi. My name is Peter Ridderway. I'm okay.

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I was given your phone number by Martin Juhurst, who's an old friend of mine. I'm on sabbatical leave from the U.S., where I've been for the last 20 years or so, and back at the LSE, where I used to teach. Back to my old haunts.

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I also was subscribing to The Independent and read some of your obituaries there, written by you rather than about you. Anyway, they're nicely written. You know, Martin gave me your name in connection with the developments at Keston.

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I was in Oxford recently and met Michael Bordeaux and heard his side of the story. I was involved, as you know, with founding Keston, and it all seems like a rather sad story. Well, yeah, I was going to ask you about that. Larry Uzzell sent me an issue of it, and I read it and found it interesting.

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It's weekly, is that right? Oh, I see. I see. Yes.

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Yes. Yes, I see. Well, thank you very much. I was wanting to find out what the different versions were, as it were.

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So it's really a choice between the weekly summary or getting five to ten articles a week. Well, I will very definitely consider subscribing and also passing it along to friends of mine in the States. Yeah. Right.

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Is Larry still involved with the group? No. But he's publishing Chichina Weekly now. Right, right, he is.

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He replaced John Dunlop, who is a good friend of mine. Right. Who is the Norwegian group that I see is sponsoring it in some way? Abroad, yes. Do they do these things under the name Forum18?

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I see. They have a website? I see. .org.

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And where does the funding come from for the news service? I see. I see. Where does the funder, which country do the funders live in?

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I see. I see. Yes. I see.

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I see. Um-hum. Which individuals and groups have you got on board at the moment? Oh...Oh. I see. I see. Um-hum. I see. I see. Um-hum. Um-hum. Um-hum. Um-hum. Um-hum. I see.

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Um, getting back to the, um, Keston situation, what, what is, what, I mean, Michael told me that Larry had supposedly tried... Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um. Um. Um. Well, the various rumors that are flying around are pretty unpleasant. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Right. Right. Right. Um-hum. Um-hum. Um-hum. Um-hum. Um-hum.

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I'll definitely forward it to, um, some friends in the United States, uh, which is where my main contacts are nowadays. Well, unfortunately I'm not here much longer, but, um, I'm doing a bit of traveling, but if I, if there is a chance between now and July when I leave, I'll give you a call. Yeah. Um-hum. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Well, I'll, uh, I'll keep that in mind, and if there's a, if there's a chance, I'll give you a call. Um, unfortunately my time is running out rather fast.

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But, uh, anyway, thanks. Um, the best email address for me is pbredaway, which is without any, any dots, just p, Peter Bryan is what it's for, pbredaway, at cs, that's as in CompuServe, cs.com. Um, I think probably the summary, because I can always go to the website for the full stories, right? Yeah. I think that would be as much as I can normally manage. Yeah. Um-hum. Thanks. Uh-huh. Right. Yes, right. Yeah. Um-hum. Okay. Very good. Well, I, I'm grateful for the information, and, um, uh, good luck with the new enterprise.

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Okay. Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.